View Full Version : Mark Burg Impressed With David Hackl!
mallorymaloney
03-26-2008, 06:51 PM
Straight from OfficialSawNews.Com (http://OfficialSawNews.Com) ...
It was another great day on the set of Saw V. The 7th day of filming has concluded. "Saw" producer Mark Burg is extremely impressed with (director) David Hackl. "David is very talented and will be directing movies for years."...Keep checking back at officialsaw.com for daily updates directly from the set of Saw V.
KillerZavatar
03-26-2008, 06:55 PM
looks great =) hopefully Saw 5 will kick ass
jb2004
03-26-2008, 06:58 PM
David has always seemed like he could be a great director. I'm sure he will knock it out of the park.
Mark Burg seems to be more "hands on" this movie than all of the others. Guess with Darren as a producer and not running the day-to-day stuff, that's one huge void to fill.
All the new characters seem very interesting. This is David's first film as director, right?
Definately getting a lot of PR -- that's a good sign, don't you think??
Koldfusion
03-26-2008, 07:24 PM
It means nothing. Tons of the producers of SAW 3 said it was amazing and how impressed they were when it was a crap film
Executive
03-26-2008, 07:53 PM
It means nothing. Tons of the producers of SAW 3 said it was amazing and how impressed they were when it was a crap film
Actually, Saw III was tremendous.
Whitney
03-26-2008, 07:59 PM
That's so good to hear.
Slightly OT, who manages officialsaw.com?
True Enemy
03-26-2008, 08:09 PM
John Raybin does.
Whitney
03-26-2008, 08:14 PM
Who dat? Is he affiliated with Twisted Pictures?
True Enemy
03-26-2008, 08:18 PM
Actually, Saw III was tremendous.
I second that. Besides seeing Saw 1, that was the first time I was ever immeresed in a SAW film. II didn't thrill me at all.
Jiowa
03-26-2008, 08:21 PM
I am so excited for Saw V.
I don't know why, but I just got extremely excited about it.
Just suddenly.
=0]
Whitney
03-26-2008, 08:28 PM
Raybin Management, LLC is the most respected name in the entertainment memorabilia world. From props, wardrobe and autographs to licensing and personal appearances, Raybin Management, LLC has it all. The company has exclusive props and wardrobe agreements with the top producers in the entertainment world. Raybin also has exclusive autograph and personal appearance agreements with some of Hollywood’s top actors, including the stars of the blockbuster SAW Movies. In addition, Raybin is extensively involved in the licensing and merchandising of entertainment properties.
For over 35 years, John Raybin has been one of the leaders in the memorabilia industry. John Raybin has been a senior executive and a consultant for Upper Deck, Score Board, Marvel, Fleer, Priceline and many other leading companies.
Wow, I had no idea!
A friend of mine spoke to John Raybin once. I bid on and won Agent Strahm's shoes that he wore in Saw IV -- They still had the prop blood on them. Really impressive. I wondered if what I won were the real deal. I have a certificate that it is.
I had no idea that Raybin Enterprises ran OfficialSaw. Couldn't pick a better outfit. A real classy place -- just like House of Jigsaw!!!
Thanx for not picking on me too much in here
The Dark Shape
03-26-2008, 09:48 PM
Actually, Saw III was tremendous.
Third-ed.
To be fair, though, what do we expect him to say? I'd be more interested if Burg got piss-drunk and reported, "That Hackl guy is awful! The footage looks horrible and we're gonna need weeks of reshoots. Someone see if the guy who did the Prom Night remake is available!"
Whitney
03-26-2008, 10:08 PM
Third-ed.
To be fair, though, what do we expect him to say? I'd be more interested if Burg got piss-drunk and reported, "That Hackl guy is awful! The footage looks horrible and we're gonna need weeks of reshoots. Someone see if the guy who did the Prom Night remake is available!"
LMFAO! Very true!
It means nothing. Tons of the producers of SAW 3 said it was amazing and how impressed they were when it was a crap film
I second that.
I'm willing to give David Hackl his chance and hopefully his directing is as good as Mark Burg says it is. From the interview footage I've seen of Hackl, he seems very friendly and professional, and like he has a genuine passion and enthusiasm for the series.
Julia25
03-27-2008, 03:50 AM
Good news!
I think David always did a good job as the Production Designer, and I have no doubts that he will do the same as a director.
WT_Snacks
03-27-2008, 04:47 AM
i can't wait to see the teaser trailer!
philsaw101134
03-27-2008, 06:03 AM
Im really exited to see this, I knew David Hackl was gonna be good. :)
and yes Saw III was tremendous :D
Bad Boy
03-27-2008, 11:55 AM
So is David directing Saw V AND doing the production design?
Mephistopheles
03-27-2008, 12:05 PM
From what I've read, Hackl seems like a nice guy who seems to care about what he's doing. That being said, in IV my problem was hardly with the directing (and I felt that Darren was treated unfairly here) but the writing of the script.
Koldfusion
03-27-2008, 12:56 PM
SAW 3 may have been tremendous to all of you, however, think of all of the non-hardcore fans that saw it as more than a 2 hour gorefest; very few. Thats why SAW 1 was such a crucial part to the series...it wasnt
SAW 3 may have been tremendous to all of you, however, think of all of the non-hardcore fans that saw it as more than a 2 hour gorefest; very few. Thats why SAW 1 was such a crucial part to the series...it wasnt
I as a hardcore fan of the first two Saws hated Saw III because I found it boring and tedious, and forsaked a lot of what made the first two work so well.
As for Saw IV, I thought it was decent, but my problems with it were both Darren's directing and quite a bit of the script.
Jordana Divinorum
03-27-2008, 02:30 PM
Ya Saw III had it's own charm, but for the most part it didn't have the same feel as Saw I and II. There was no feeling of being trapped or how far you'd go to save your own life. For me part IV was a step back in the right direction.
The Dark Shape
03-27-2008, 02:33 PM
SAW 3 may have been tremendous to all of you, however, think of all of the non-hardcore fans that saw it as more than a 2 hour gorefest; very few. Thats why SAW 1 was such a crucial part to the series...it wasnt
Uh, everyone I know views Saw 1 as a non-stop gorefest. That's how the public views the films. Why exactly should I care?
Mephistopheles
03-27-2008, 02:34 PM
SAW 3 may have been tremendous to all of you, however, think of all of the non-hardcore fans that saw it as more than a 2 hour gorefest; very few. Thats why SAW 1 was such a crucial part to the series...it wasnt
Honestly, I'm willing to bet that most people outside of the Saw fanbase saw the first two as pretty gory films as well.
Julia25
03-27-2008, 02:38 PM
Honestly, I'm willing to bet that most people outside of the Saw fanbase saw the first two as pretty gory films as well.
In my opinion Saw III was not only a gorefest. It was very intense and emotional as well.
KillerZavatar
03-27-2008, 02:39 PM
In my opinion Saw III was not only a gorefest. It was very intense and emotional as well.
yeah and i hated the emotional aspect =/ but the gore scenes were great and the story was cooooool
Mephistopheles
03-27-2008, 02:40 PM
In my opinion Saw III was not only a gorefest. It was very intense and emotional as well.
I know, I saw it that way as well. It does have a number of gory setpieces, but there's more to it than just blood and guts.
sarahmichelle.x
03-27-2008, 02:41 PM
I have full faith in David, I really think he will pull off directing Saw V with flying colours.
Saw III is my second favourite in the series. I think it was fantastic, as a lot of people do.
Oh, and DOJ I agree with you about Saw IV, it was decent but the problems were the script and the directing.
Hopefully, David will be able to shed some new insight into the Saw world with his camera shots.
I'm excited!
sarahmichelle.x
03-27-2008, 02:42 PM
yeah and i hated the emotional aspect =/
Really?
I thought that was the best part.
It just tied the film together.
Julia25
03-27-2008, 02:45 PM
Really?
I thought that was the best part.
Yeah, I agree. In my opinion Saw III's emotional part was quite similar to the first Saw, and I missed these intense in Saw II and IV.
yeah and i hated the emotional aspect =/
The emotional aspect in Saw III felt very forced and unnatural to me. I could never really fully feel the emotion the movie tried so hard to convey but almost always failed to do so in my opinion. It tried too hard to be emotional and it instead felt tedious and boring to me. Saw III to me felt like a soap opera.
yoyo45
03-27-2008, 02:55 PM
In my opinion Saw III was not only a gorefest. It was very intense and emotional as well.
u are absolutly right! i loved the scene where jeff had to burn all of his son's things in order to save someone he hated. it was so emotional
The Dark Shape
03-27-2008, 02:57 PM
Yeah, I agree. In my opinion Saw III's emotional part was quite similar to the first Saw, and I missed these intense in Saw II and IV.
I agree with this on so many levels.
Saw III's level of emotion is what elevates it over the other two sequels. Laugh at me, but I think a big moment in Saw 1 is when Dr. Gordon and Adam actually come face-to-face in the bathroom. It's an emotional, fairly intimate moment where they depend on each other. Saw III carries that aspect along. The film affected me on an emotional level so much more than on a visceral one.
Small things get a reaction from me because of how well they're edited. As Jigsaw is talking Amanda down from shooting Lynn, and we get that shot of Jeff sliding the clip into the pistol -- CLICK -- I literally wince. Saw II and IV don't have anything even approaching that... and it's not even one of the film's best moments. It's not in the same league as Jeff burning Dylan's possessions or Amanda dying with Jigsaw assuring her it's okay.
I never felt anything emotional resonate with me from Saw III, except for some of Amanda's scenes, the Rack sequence and when Jeff burns Dylan's toys. Everything else to me felt very forced and unnatural, and very soap opera-esque to me. Saw III to me felt like a two-hour episode of General Hospital or Days Of Our Lives with Saw characters and situations thrown in it.
Saw II doesn't have much in the way of emotion, but what little is there works; there's Eric's struggle with his past misdeeds and how badly he regrets and wants to get back Daniel, and there's the bit of drama between Daniel and Laura that I found quite effective despite it's briefness. Saw IV even works much better on an emotional level IMO, with Rigg's storyline and how he struggles to save everyone and in the end that's what costs the lives of the people he tries to save. Also Eric's struggle in the film was very saddening, to think he suffered so badly and never even found out if Daniel was okay, and while I didn't care for John's backstory in Saw IV, it at least got me invested.
The Dark Shape
03-27-2008, 03:02 PM
Saw III to me felt like a two-hour episode of General Hospital or Days Of Our Lives with Saw characters and situations thrown in it.
You clearly haven't seen a soap opera recently.
No, but I've seen bits of them in my lifetime and that's exactly what Saw III felt like to me with it's so-called emotional aspect.
The Dark Shape
03-27-2008, 03:05 PM
No, but I've seen bits of them in my lifetime and that's exactly what Saw III felt like to me with it's so-called emotional aspect.
That's called character interaction -- where people are flawed, depend on each other, and generally change during the course of the movie. I realize that, being a Saw II fan, the concept of drama may be a bit... alien to you.
Mephistopheles
03-27-2008, 03:08 PM
He's allowed to have his opinions. He's backing them up and not just going "OMG SAW III SUCKS!", so I don't see what the problem is.
The Dark Shape
03-27-2008, 03:09 PM
He's allowed to have his opinions. He's backing them up and not just going "OMG SAW III SUCKS!", so I don't see what the problem is.
I know, I was just jokin'. I would've put a smiley but it would have thrown the line off.
That's called character interaction -- where people are flawed, depend on each other, and generally change during the course of the movie. I realize that, being a Saw II fan, the concept of drama may be a bit... alien to you.
I know character drama and I appreciate it, character drama is something Saw III doesn't have in my opinion. I've seen movies heavily dependent on character drama like American History X, Saving Private Ryan, the Star Wars series, the first two Terminators, etc. character drama and interaction when it's depicted believably and with characters I care about and get attached to works. Saw III has few characters I care about and almost nobody for me to develop an attachment to.
The Dark Shape
03-27-2008, 03:11 PM
I know character drama and I appreciate it, character drama is something Saw III doesn't have in my opinion. I've seen movies heavily dependent on character drama like American History X, Saving Private Ryan, the Star Wars series, the first two Terminators, etc. character drama and interaction when it's depicted believably and with characters I care about and get attached to works. Saw III has few characters I care about and almost nobody for me to develop an attachment to.
You were attached to Amanda and so infuriated by her death that you still rail on the film for what it did to her almost two years later. I'd say that's the very definition of Saw III making a dramatic impact.
It's more of a definition of me being pissed off about Amanda rather than being affected on an emotional level. I hated the arc the film gave Amanda as well as the relationship she had with John.
The Dark Shape
03-27-2008, 03:15 PM
It's more of a definition of me being pissed off about Amanda rather than being affected on an emotional level. I hated the arc the film gave Amanda as well as the relationship she had with John.
But it's still drama -- and I think it affected you more than anyone else on the board. I'd imagine Leigh Whannell would be pretty happy with your response because you can't get the film out of your head.
sarahmichelle.x
03-27-2008, 03:15 PM
Yeah, I agree. In my opinion Saw III's emotional part was quite similar to the first Saw, and I missed these intense in Saw II and IV.
Exactly.
That's why it is my second favourite.
=]
But it's still drama -- and I think it affected you more than anyone else on the board. I'd imagine Leigh Whannell would be pretty happy with your response because you can't get the film out of your head.
I don't think Leigh would be pleased that I despise the movie enough to want to murder somebody.
Mephistopheles
03-27-2008, 03:16 PM
I know, I was just jokin'.
Sorry for misunderstanding you. It just seems people are always giving him crap because he doesn't like Saw III.
The Dark Shape
03-27-2008, 03:18 PM
I don't think Leigh would be pleased that I despise the movie enough to want to murder somebody.
What better compliment to the writer of a horror film that 600 days later, you can't stop thinking about his film?
I'd imagine he wouldn't be pleased at the fact that I loathe the movie and have a less than favorable opinion of the crew members for making it, and an opinion I won't delve into because I know it'll offend people on here.
We should just drop it, we know where we stand on the topic of Saw III and we all know what happened last time I got into a debate over it. This is the point where we have to agree to disagree. If you feel Saw III is a deep character drama that evokes strong emotions, that's all a matter of personal taste. I don't feel the same way, but that's just me.
Mephistopheles
03-27-2008, 03:23 PM
I know, I was just jokin'. I would've put a smiley but it would have thrown the line off.
On second thought, I don't think I was responding to you. It was a post after yours that was since deleted. Sorry for the confusion.
The Dark Shape
03-27-2008, 03:24 PM
I think we're in an interesting discussion, though, and we're certainly not insulting each other.
I just think it a high compliment to a filmmaker that years later, you think about the film several times a day, every day. I'd go so far as to wager, DOJ, that when you think of the Saw films, Saw III jumps to mind for you as quickly as the second film does, and more frequently than the first.
If there are any positives I have with Saw III, it's the fact that inspite of the (in my opinion) poor character arc and relationship with John that Amanda had, it was great that Shawnee got to inject more personality and charisma into the role, and the character's emotions felt very genuine to me (another reason why I found the emotional aspect of the film tedious; Amanda's emotions were caught up among forced emotions throughout the film, hurting the impact for me). I also enjoyed most of the traps minus the Freezer Room and Pig Vat, enjoyed Eric's scenes as well as the brain surgery scene and most of the flashbacks (although I found them pointless and unneeded, they were interesting to see), and I also feel the movie has the best music score of the series. I also dug the slick photography, with the transitions and quick cuts that were edited a lot better in this film than in Saw II and definitely Saw IV.
Other than that, well, I'm sure everyone on the board knows what I hate about the movie by now.
Julia25
03-27-2008, 03:44 PM
I agree with this on so many levels.
Saw III's level of emotion is what elevates it over the other two sequels. Laugh at me, but I think a big moment in Saw 1 is when Dr. Gordon and Adam actually come face-to-face in the bathroom. It's an emotional, fairly intimate moment where they depend on each other. Saw III carries that aspect along. The film affected me on an emotional level so much more than on a visceral one.
Yeah I agree. It's definitely one of the emotional moments in Saw. Although some say that Leigh can't act, I think he did a great job in Saw, his face-expressions were imo perfect for every scene. I also found it very shocking and emotional when Jigsaw raised up from the floor and Adam noticed that, the look on his face, with gaping mouth, what a great scene.
Small things get a reaction from me because of how well they're edited. As Jigsaw is talking Amanda down from shooting Lynn, and we get that shot of Jeff sliding the clip into the pistol -- CLICK -- I literally wince.
Yes, I felt for these persons, just like I did it with Lawrence and Adam in Saw.
Saw II and IV don't have anything even approaching that...
Saw II and IV definitely had their moments, in Saw II it was for me the Conversation between Eric and John. And in Saw IV it was the Jigsaw flashbacks and the Eric scenes, I loved the scene where Eric remembered how he came on that iceblock, it's a great scene and the music does a lot to it. But both movies are not so emotional as Saw and Saw III, even though I found Saw IV much better than Saw II.
The original Saw didn't have a whole lot of emotion to it other than some scenes towards the end, but it didn't really need it, the original Saw is like a modern-day mystery movie.
Back on-topic, I hope David Hackl is as good as the producers are saying he is. I'm giving him his chance and hope to add him to my list of favorite directors come October 24th after I leave the theater.
Julia25
03-27-2008, 03:49 PM
The original Saw didn't have a whole lot of emotion to it other than some scenes towards the end, but it didn't really need it, the original Saw is like a modern-day mystery movie.
I wouldn't call it a mystery movie, imo it's more a psychological thriller. And I found the whole movie emotional, and shocking of course.
The Dark Shape
03-27-2008, 03:49 PM
I'm just hoping the fact he's older than Darren means he'll be more patient.
Julia25
03-27-2008, 03:53 PM
I'm just hoping the fact he's older than Darren means he'll be more patient.
I would say David takes it more serious, I mean it's his first time directing.
I wouldn't call it a mystery movie, imo it's more a psychological thriller. And I found the whole movie emotional, and shocking of course.
I think the original Saw has some strong undertones of Horror and Psychological Thrillers, but to me, it always struck me as more of a mystery movie than anything.
I'm just hoping the fact he's older than Darren means he'll be more patient.
Me, too. You can tell from the special features on the Saw IV DVD how impatient Darren was with Saw IV and how disinterested he was in it. David seems like he still has genuine passion and enthusiasm. I hope David's directing is more like James Wan on the original Saw, with some hints of Darren's directing in Saw II in terms of pacing. I wouldn't even mind Saw III-style editing and transitions (one of the few things I like about Saw III).
Me, too. You can tell from the special features on the Saw IV DVD how impatient Darren was with Saw IV and how disinterested he was in it. David seems like he still has genuine passion and enthusiasm. I hope David's directing is more like James Wan on the original Saw, with some hints of Darren's directing in Saw II in terms of pacing. I wouldn't even mind Saw III-style editing and transitions (one of the few things I like about Saw III).
Darren was a little distracted with organizing Repo at the same time. He was doing double duty -- as everyone knows. And yes, he was high as a kite on Repo -- He might have felt a bit rushed with Saw IV because it seemed to be constantly behind schedule -- but I loved Saw IV. I thought Darren ended his reign with Saw on a high note. Well done, Dareen.
I thought Saw IV was a decent movie, but I found the directing and script to be lacking in a lot of areas.
Julia25
03-27-2008, 04:36 PM
I think the original Saw has some strong undertones of Horror and Psychological Thrillers, but to me, it always struck me as more of a mystery movie than anything.
The mystery-factor came because of the unknown killer who lay down on the floor the entire movie.
Exactly. Also because the movie has you second-guessing as to who the killer might be and his motives, though clear, still seem a bit shady.
Julia25
03-27-2008, 04:47 PM
Exactly. Also because the movie has you second-guessing as to who the killer might be and his motives, though clear, still seem a bit shady.
But with the sequels, the mystery-factor is almost gone...:(
Saw II took a different direction when Bousman was at the helm. I'm not even sure he viewed the original movie (He might have read the script of the original movie). I think James Wan met with Darren, loved his vision for the series, and let him have at it. Not sure that Darren even considered tying up loose ends -- he doesn't seem big in that area -- Helter Skelter and chaos is more his liking. I saw a completely different movie when I watched Saw II and said that his isn't flowing from the original source (Saw I). Since then, I've been in constant limbo, but still at the edge of my seat each and every time.
Darren has seen the original Saw, he's said so on the interviews, featurettes and commentaries. I agree that the mystery is sadly gone in the sequels, but I guess the mystery is only something that was needed for the original movie, since the cat is out of the bag after that.
They definately took a different road with "sequels" that's for sure. II, III and VI were entirely different movies than the original Saw. Common denomintor is: Darren. It will be interesting to see what David does with this, since he's been side-by-side with Darren. I'm hoping he'll take us on a different direction -- shake things up, you know? Something to make me go "Whoa." and "WOW".
Cripes -- I'm crazed with this series. Driving me insane.
I'm giving Hackl his chance and hope he delivers with this movie.
Jordana Divinorum
03-27-2008, 10:35 PM
I think Saw IV should have been 15 mins longer. I would have liked to see more police work where they piece together the clues. I kinda like the whole detective element to the movies. Like in Saw I where Tapp heard the siren on the tape and found Jigsaw's lair.
I always enjoyed the detective aspect of the series as well. It's part of the reason I enjoy the series a lot.
Koldfusion
03-28-2008, 02:58 AM
Indeed, not much mystery left. I can now pretty much determine the end halfway through the movie
I thought Saw III's twists (Amanda and Jigsaw betraying each other in some way, Jeff and Lynn as husband and wife) were both very predictable. Saw IV's twists were predictable, but only because of the clue Saw III left regarding Hoffman. Take that out and the scene of Hoffman writing Amanda's letter early on in Saw IV, and the Hoffman twist is much less predictable. The time twist was predictable only because it was hinted at in an interview with one the producers months before the release, when Saw IV was said to be neither a prequel nor sequel, having some speculate the movie may have been occuring at the same time as Saw III.
mastae
03-28-2008, 09:12 AM
I think there's still a big mystery aspect just because they can take it in a lot of directions where it's at right now (kind of like the ending to Saw 2). We have a new core character that they need to explain. Do you know how it's going to begin? I don't. I would expect that it would begin right after Hoffman leaves, and we would focus on Strahm in the sick room, but I also expected 4 to begin with Jeff, and they went a completely different way. The Saw guys still have a lot of creativity left in them, and I have faith in V :)
Cameron
03-28-2008, 11:24 AM
I kind of have a feeling that Saw 5, (the beginning at least) isn't going to be anything of what we've all be speculating for almost 6 months. Most people seem kind of content with the extended Corbett ending as the beginning of the next movie, but I wouldn't (or would?) be surprised if that wasn't included at all. Instead, a different approach was used. For example, a lot of people dreadingly expected Saw IV to take place right after Jigsaw was killed, and Jeff is now trying to save his daughter. In a nutshell, all I'm saying is that I don't expect to see this movie start off with Hoffman, Strauhm or Corbett. Nor do I expect Hoffman to be tested. (not that I would be opposed)
Julia25
03-28-2008, 02:29 PM
Saw IV's twists were predictable, but only because of the clue Saw III left regarding Hoffman. Take that out and the scene of Hoffman writing Amanda's letter early on in Saw IV, and the Hoffman twist is much less predictable.
I definitely agree with that. The Saw IV twist would have worked better without that Hoffman-clue from Saw III, that was really too predictable...
If they omitted the scene of Hoffman stealing the chainring in Saw III and also took out the bit in Saw IV when he's seen writing Amanda's letter, his reveal as the apprentice/accomplice would've been a lot more surprising and unpredictable.
tobinbellpwns
03-28-2008, 02:37 PM
I kind of have a feeling that Saw 5, (the beginning at least) isn't going to be anything of what we've all be speculating for almost 6 months. Most people seem kind of content with the extended Corbett ending as the beginning of the next movie, but I wouldn't (or would?) be surprised if that wasn't included at all. Instead, a different approach was used. For example, a lot of people dreadingly expected Saw IV to take place right after Jigsaw was killed, and Jeff is now trying to save his daughter. In a nutshell, all I'm saying is that I don't expect to see this movie start off with Hoffman, Strauhm or Corbett. Nor do I expect Hoffman to be tested. (not that I would be opposed)
i agree.
hopefully you've read my opening to saw V somewhere on HOJ
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